Bloom gives the Condors a 9.5

Okay, maybe I’m a bit late on this considering I’ve had them for quite a while, especially since the 2012 rockered model will be available soon. But, yesterday was the first time I had the 2011 RVL8 Condors out for a test drive. I mean, I’m 30 now and being outside the park by choice for an entire day is something I am starting to lean towards. Before I go and discuss their pure rideability (Is that even a word?) I did get into some natural terrain jibbing and hit a rail a few times. But, for the most part I had intended for it to be a cruising day, which is something I have not really gone out to do at all. Wolf Creek is certainly the place to do it because there is no park and they get on average the most snow in Colorado every year. It is an all natural mountain with no snowmaking (to my knowledge), wind powered energy for the resort, and only organic food (other than bottled beverages) served in the lodges. Even the lift tickets are generic with different words of the day printed on them. So, this was the place for me to test the boards without hiking over and over throughout the day (I’ll leave that to you, Jack). But, let me digress and get back to the boards.

I have never been on KTPs (101cm-wide) and have only ridden ALPs (110cm-traditional R8 width proportion) once. For me, the main transition was that of 5cm in length and several cm in width as well as a less flexier board. All of this factored on the basis that I ride on Revolts 100% of the time in all conditions; park, all mountain, powder, trees, backyard jibs, urban, etc… I am 5’6″ and weigh 140lbs (dropped 15lbs of muscle since the dislocations of my shoulder over the past ten months). Thus far Revolts have been the ideal skiboard for what I desired in all conditions.

My first concern while riding up the lift (I probably should have thought things through at least the day before, but I didn’t even bring any other boards to the resort just in case this was an unsuccessful test), was whether or not I would have troubles getting on edge. I am a pretty active guy, skating 2-3 times a week outside of the summer months and training in the gym regularly with high-impact explosive training workouts. Even with that we all know that getting on edge and working on powder with skiboards can be quite a quad-killer for your legs. My second concern was that with the width and flex, would I be able to ride how I normally do? Everyone has their specific flow on skiboards, or anything for that matter, and would it work out well for me? Or, would I feel incredibly uncomfortable for the day? These, among other thoughts are what went through my mind as I rode up my first time.

To my surprise I came off the lift and flew down the first trail (black diamond) and rode typically how I would in a cruising situation, boards close and parallel while just leaning back and forth. They rode incredibly smoothly on the groomed trail and when any sort of powder popped showed up in random spots I floated effortlessly over the patches as if they weren’t there. Throughout the day I tested them in various areas to see how they would handle, including groomers, light pow (4 inches deep, sugary), trees, steep hard-pack, natural banks to tree taps, buttering at lower and higher speeds, popping off of rollers, the feel of grabs and moving the boards around in the air (shifties and spins), and even hitting a rail (Wolf has one random rail sitting at the bottom by one of the lifts that is super sketch to hit and even in the extremely narrow ride-up these boards made the cut).

Overall, I must say that I was very pleased. Even for my height and weight they rode rather fluidly. After a conscious first run of pay attention specifically to how they felt I cruised run after run without even adjusting anything in how I rode or how I thought about approaching things. I definitely felt the width throughout the day as a much wider base to be on top of, but it didn’t actually affect how I rode. The lean-back method came pretty natural in the deeper spots (keep in mind that it is still early season snow and the resort had 4′ but that was several weeks ago before getting warm temps since). My edges were fresh and leaning far from side to side made it quite easy to get on edge fast and smoothly. The extra flex was of no concern because it made the ride smooth. I was cruising fast and taking sharp turns with ease not only because of how easy it was to get on edge, but because of how light the boards felt because of the flex. Yes, the boards tend to fool your mind and make it think they are lighter when in fact it is the flex. Odd, but refreshing. I was even popping off of high banks, tail-tapping trees, and then landing deep in the transition. Because of the flex it was easy to just sink in and ride out. I even hit a rail several times and the boards seemed to lock easier because of the width (I can understand the park love for KTPs now). Between runs I was buttering around doing 360 nose presses and such, and while they were flexier than what I am usually used to there was no problem at all. I just had to compensate by leaning a little more into the trick.

I really don’t have any complaints. The Condors were a fantastic all-around board. The only slight issue I had and needed to compensate for was when coming down steeps where the terrain was slightly moguly and broken up the boards did not handle as well as a narrower board. I would imagine that had it been powder they would have championed the entire section.

I have yet to test them in deep powder, but that will be on the docket next.

On a scale from 1 to 10, for all around use I give them a 9.5

For reference, I was using RVL8 2010 Receptors and Dalbello Rampage boots.

Rider – Dave Bloom – RVL8 Skiboards Event Coordinator, Assistant Team Manager, and RVL8 Team Rider




Condors float on powder…

Made a total of 16 runs between 9am-1pm at Stratton, going from summit to mid-mountain, back up to summit, from summit to base, from mid-mountain to base.

After using the KTPs on Saturday, I had no problems with the width of the Condors, the only problem was skating, with the added length and width, there were a couple of times I did clang the tails. As far as how they performed compared to other 110s, they feel just like the ALPs, except bigger. They turn and performance just like the ALPs, but am able to plow through powder even better. I was able to made a few runs down an area that was roped off due to heavy duty snowmaking, with almost no visibility due to the snowmaking, I was able to go through the area in ankle-deep powder without any problems. With other 110s, I would need to sit back a bit more such that the tips can raise up and go through the powder, but with the Condors, I didn’t need to do this. For me, this is definitely the skiboard I would use when I want to hit it out west, going to backbowls and other areas where there is lots and lots of powder. Previously, I would have used my Spruce 120s, but now that there is a 110 length with the added width for floatation, the Condors will take over that spot. The Condors have the same flex as the ALPs, which is less stiff than the Summits or the Lacroix that I own in the 110cm size.

I also had a chance to take these to Snowmass and Aspen Highlands and they didn’t miss a beat, able to handle both east coast and west coast conditions.

Rider – Edward Ho – Expert Skiboarder




Get the CONDORS people!

I have been riding skiboards since the first year they hit the market. I have shredded all sorts of sizes and brands. But last year was my first season on R8 boards. It was also the first time I had ever been on anything longer than 100cm.After riding the ALP I knew that we needed a powder hog. What I was unaware of though is the fact that it would have my name on it.

The first time I took them out if the box I had a pair of BWPs on the floor. when they came out of the box I set them up to the b-dubs and was shocked by how massive these things are. They even dwarf the alps. I knew that they would kill it in the powder but I was unprepared for the park . Riding into jumps is a whole new feeling because of the extra suface area. I dont find myself skating for speed as much as I used to . They just want to get up and go. Landing is now a little easier ,once again because of the extra surface area. I was a little skeptical of them on rails . I thaught they would feel like tanks but the boards are suprizingly lite. they just seemed to lock on tighter than the thinner counter parts.I have had more funin the park on these boards than anything else I have eve riddin.

Now these boards were designed to ride the back country of Colorado. Thats what I do the most of for sure. I have about 30 or so days in the BC this year. With 6-8 weeks left to the season of pow possibilties we have plenty of time. These boards perform very well in pow 10-30 inches with out a problem. We just havnt had the big storms this season to test them on anything deeper than that. I have been dropping cliffs on average of 20 -30 ft but have only once dropped anything bigger. On the smaller drops, the ride away facter has been increased 2 fold. I have just bomb holed on anything over 35 ft. Its just hard for me to want to land more forward. The older boards always made me land backseat. It will just take some retraining on my part to trust the surfacr area that I now have. The one thing the condors have def done for the sport is the intoduction of inverts in the back country. These bad boys float so nice you really dont have to worry about falling through the edge of what you want to boost off. This has been great for learning how hard to rotate when hucking meat off of cliffs.The condors arem poised to show the rest of the snow sliding world whats up. All we need now are a few more kooks . I sincerly hope that if you are a rider who fancies him or herself as a hardcore rider that wants the ultimate skiboard for every job. It should be a no brainer. Get the CONDORS people. You wont regret it. Keep shredding and spreading the love Brett Connor

Rider – Brett Connor – Expert Skiboarder (inspiration for the RVL8 Condor)




Condors are beasts!

These things are beasts! and im not a big guy, at 6’2, 135 lbs (yeah I’m mad skinny, its annoying). So i had my doubts about how well id be able to handle the condors.
Well, as everyone knows, there was mad pow in the east coast tonight. About a foot or so. Perfect opportunity to bring out the Condors.

I strapped them on at the lift, and took a deep breath as i boarded the lift, to a comment of “where in the world did you buy those snowblades, they’re massive” from the lift operator.
I got to talking to a snowboarder on the lift, who was in awe of the size of the condors, and he was interested in seeing the rest of the boards. I gave him a business card and told him there were many pictures on the forums of most of the boards. Now it was windy going up, and the wind was catching under the boards and pushing them up, the condors were wanting to fly. I exited the lift, and traversed a little on the way to “green/blue” runs, which were covered in powder and basically, skier mad moguls, piles of powder that were pushed by boarders and skiers, then packed down by people going over them, then more powder on top. They were so much fun. I would hit one, pop up my tips, have my tails be planted, then bounce into another one. The flex on these made for fun shredding in the powder.

There was also a steeper trail that most of the powder blew off. I wanted to see how they would handle steep hard pack. I was surprised, i kept them mostly on edge, and the hold was tremendous, no skidding out or chattering, just bouncing over the occasional powder pocket, and carving up the hard pack. They went above and beyond my expectations on hard pack. But where these behemoths really opened up on the powder. These condors have gone above anything i could’ve ever thought they would do. I was using my height to really drive into carves, and really ride these aggressively, which they responded to amazingly. If i had any advise for riding these, it would be stay on edge and carve, and really put your weight into it.

Thanks Brett Connor for the inspiration and help with choosing the condors. Great all around board.

Rider – Rob Kraebel – Intermediate Skiboarder




Condors are a must have…

In my short time skiboarding (2.5 seasons) I’ve ridden a lot on many different boards (Head Shape 94s, RVL8 Tanshos, RVL8 Mary Janes, RVL8 KTPs, RVL8 ALPs, Spruce 120s, and now the Condors). The Condors are by far the best, most versatile all-mountain boards I’ve ridden. I recently put them through their paces on a full day of riding at Mt. Bachelor. 20 inches of fresh snow, hard packed blue groomers, ungroomed blacks, a steep mogul run, cut-up chop, and finished the day in untouched trackless deep powder on a hike-able inbounds hill.

The Condors handled it all.

They flex great over uneven terrain, float well in the softest powder and hold an edge on aggressive carving on hard pack. They are confidence inspiring and stable and give me great feedback from the terrain without jostling me about like much stiffer boards have a tendency to do. They look great too. The massive width of the things will take some getting used to – my ankles and feet were a bit fatigued by the end of the day. They are not hard to get on edge, but do require more out of a rider to get them there.

Ultimately, I would say this should be a “must have” board for heavier riders (170 lbs +) who want to ride skiboards all mountain and in variable terrain that includes deep, soft powder. Simply fantastic product and fantastic ride.

Rider – Robert – Intermediate Skiboarder




Condors are my favorite…

The Condors have turned out to be the best all round skiboard I have ridden in my six seasons of skiboarding. Here is why:Carving on groomers is very natural and intuitive after the first few runs.

The Condors have excellent edge hold on extreme hard pack (I have yet to have the misfortune of riding glare ice). They have never let me down on high speed carves or when dodging obstacles (skiers, snowboarders or trees). I do not recall ever sliding out on the Condors. At 110 cm long, they are short enough that they do not go squirrelly if you want to take a short break from edging and just flat-base bomb the run. I suspect the extra width helps the Condors be less sensitive to the terrain and therefore they do not catch edges as easily as narrower skiboards.

The Condors are FAST allowing me to hold my own when racing my snowboarding son.Skating is very natural and I very rarely hit the skiboards together. Since the glide is very good, very little effort is required to get around when skating.My motivation for buying the Condors was my minor struggles when riding other skiboards off-piste that translated into fatigue.

None of my other skiboards provide the optimum powder float for my weight. Also with my longest skiboards, I find it difficult to control tip swing at the end of a long day of riding as my legs tire out. The Condor’s float and length have proven to be a perfect combination for me. Their great float is much less tiring on my thighs since there is no need to lean back. The shorter length means I am not fighting / compensating for tips being thrown about in uneven terrain of chopped powder. With the Condors: I do not have to focus on the changing terrain and be as deliberate in the path I take; I feel in total control of the Condors; and they provide a less tiring ride off-piste. This allows me to get a few more runs in at the end of a long day of riding because of less fatigue. Therefore, the Condors are exactly what I was looking for; more control and less fatigue.

I am an older rider at 51 years old, 180 pounds, 5” 11” tall and consider myself an intermediate rider (foolish enough to go where he probably should not be going) who only gets to ride on real mountains up to 10 days a season. I rode the Condors with modified aluminum Spruce risers and releasable bindings (S810 ti) center mounted.

Rider – Yaroslow – Intermediate Skiboarder




I absolutely love the Condors…

Condors: In short, absolutely love them. Was sad when my KTP’s met their end, but now I love these more then I did the KTPs. The stability and float are absolutely great, and though the stiffness of the KTP’s is great for them, the flex of the Condors is perfect for what it is too. Having put enough time in powder and glades in the last part of this season, I never felt wanting for more maneuverability.

I was quite often taking lines that it seemed the skiers and snowboarders avoided through tight trees, and getting fresh lines because of that. On that note though, being ~175lbs + whatever gear I have on, and if I’m wearing a pack, I was glad to get the powder plates for the setback. I had a few pow days without the plates, and it was very good, though the KTP’s with setback I recalled being easier (I wish I could have tested them head to head). Once I was able to get the setback for the powder though, it all opened up, though I’ll admit I did enough backslapping when I was doing drops.

Rider – Mitchell Kuntz – Expert Skiboarder




BWP Review by Skiboardmagazine.com

Fourth day on the BWPs for me, and they are beautiful. Graphics wise they are a true piece of art, stunning, complex, fun, thoughtful and unique, and reflect the man himself. The graphics are crisp and sharp.

This review could be entirely based on the graphics themselves but let’s move on to how they ride! I usually prefer to ride short boards around 90cm long but this year I decided to go a little longer to test out other boards.

Turning radius wise these boards are tight. With a 4.9 meter turning radius they are perhaps a little too tight for some. Land these boards a little on edges and you’re going to be twirling around. If you are into big air or high speed carving, you might want to look for something with a bit of a wider turning radius.

On the plus side the tight radius worked great in the trees, and wonders for those butters and jibs. Soft snow floatation was pretty good for someone like myself at 150 pounds. With a width at 14 cm, they are on the narrower side for RVL8, but still wide skiboard wise.

RVL8’s innovative “blunt” tips continue to shine on these boards, making them increasingly stable on edge, and on those tail/nose presses. The BWPs feel and look like the big brothers of the Tanshos, which had really steep tips, these are more mellow, and create less drag in the snow on edge.

General high speed riding is good. As mentioned before the turning radius is a little sharp for high speed carves. They are quick edge to edge, easy to turn, medium flexing skiboards. At 98 cm, someone looking for mid-sized sticks that can handle medium powder, trees and creativity on the slopes/terrain park will love these boards.

Rider – Jason Roussel – Expert Skiboarder Co-Founder Skiboardmagazine.com





BWP are great skiboards for new riders…

The RVL8 BWPs are the skiboards to choose when you want a skiboard that can handle the groomers with the added edge of a quick turning radius. BWPs turn on a dime, especially on moguls where they feel just at home. Being similar in design to the Line MNPs, but with added width and more flex, they perform similar to the Line MNPs, the added width gives more stability in all conditions.

This is a great skiboard to choose for someone totally new to being on the snow, wanting to feel what’s it’s like. This skiboard will give someone the full experience of being on a skiboard, and then they can decide do they wish to go to a shorter size for even quicker turns or to a longer size for more speed and more stability.

Rider – Edward Ho – Expert Skiboarder





BWP. Excellent.

I’ll start by saying I was really impressed with the base graphics on these. Great design and colors.

They came with some wax on them but of course I went ahead and waxed them, twice with swix all temp wax ( the blue stuff )

I could NOT BELEIVE HOW FAST THESE BASES ARE when properly waxed. I came off the summitt lift at butternut and I just kept sliding and sliding, even uphill they just kept on going.

But how were they on the rails, you’re wondering ? excellent.

I was initially concerned about the stability on some big airs but I even overshot a couple landing zones and had no problems.

Got a few more stares then usual, I would then remark to the starer ” weird, huh ? ” and they just stand there with their mouth open not knowing what to say.

So If you’re on the fence about either getting the EMP or the BWP, I’d say if you’re more inclined for heaving powder bashing action get the EMPS, and If you like rails and terrain parks more get the BWP, but they both excel in either area.

Rider – Mark Carraro – Expert Skiboarder