Summit Custom 110’s speed are incredible…

I have only skied in the North East US, which means lots of man-made snow and plenty of ice often with the occasional white-out conditions. After doing some research on skiboards, I went with the Summit Custom 110cm 2013 model. These came with Atomic release bindings.

The Summit Custom 110cm’s were a big surprise. The speed was incredible. There was no chatter and the edging grabbed at every turn. I especially like the 14cm width which helps it ride as if I had 2 snowboards under my feet. Turning was a breeze, spinning to backwards and even twirling around for multiple 360s also came with ease.

As the season progressed it seemed like the sky was the limit with these. I ventured through the glades with the ability to fit through the smallest of paths with instant response from my boards to make the tightest of turns. Downhills were tremendous and again, very surprises at the incredible speed and stability at max speed straight bomb running it. Turning at high speeds was probably my favorite aspect of these. A simple lean and they just grabbed and you carved at will. Not once over the entire season did they lose an edge or not go exactly where I wanted them to go.

Then comes the terrain parks. Being that skiboards are a lot lighter and shorter than my long skis, not having the extra length and weight really made for a fun time. I was able to get into those great grooves snowboards make entering the side of trail jumps that my long skis never seemed to fit right into due to the length. The flex in these was just enough to give me that extra spring into the air while still allowing landings to not be brutal and kept me balanced. I am not good at riding rails so I can’t tell you how they’d perform, but “Jib Boxes” were A LOT of fun and hit everyone I came across.

The graphics I thought were pretty cool on these featuring summit peaks. Probably the only thing I would have liked more about these is if they had cool graphic bottoms instead of the plain black. Transporting these was also very easy. They were small enough to fit in the trunk of a Honda Civic all season and were light to carry to and from the lodge. I was not easy at all on these, in fact I beat the heck out of them, and they just kept asking for more. These were phenomenal all-mountain skiboards and I would recommend them to anyone looking for a do-all go-everywhere type of boards and I look forward to the next season using them again.

Rider – Lyle S – Expert Skiboarder

Spanners reviews 3 boards (Jedi’s,Titanal 99’s, Woodies)

As I have skied on three different skiboards I have written one review covering them all as a form of comparison. The boards used were the Line Jedi (with FF Pro bindings + 2 rubber spacers), Lacroix Titanals 99’s (riser + Tyrolia SP130 release bindings) and finally Summit Custom 110′ s (riser + rubber spacer + Tyrolia SP130’s)

Jedi’s
I’ve skied for just over 29 years now since the age of 20. Skiing unshaped skis (planks), long skis and then long shaped skis. However about 15 years ago I wanted a bit of a change and did not want to go all the way to snowboarding etc. I’d briefly played on Big Feet and then had lots of fun on “blades” but was wanting something more so off piste was acheivable. So in late ’99 I got a pair of Jedi’s via importers from Canada.

Compared to blades these were fantastic and gradually I stopped taking my big boy’s skis and just settled on the convenience and fun of the Jedi’s – saving on lots of ski carriage as they went in my normal wheelie bag. Which also meant my back did not get jarred by the time I got to the slopes.

The Jedi’s have been a good companion for me over the years (11 in all). I have only semi retired them due to wanting just a bit more surface area – partly due to extra weight from all the safety gear – otherwise they are basically as good as they were many years ago. Tuning the edges if need be (lightly) every other day along with and a quick hot wax – and it only takes a few minutes due to there relatively small size – to keep the speed and agility in them.

So basically the Jedi’s are a lot of fun with some good credentials. On piste they are pretty good. Moguls fast and fun. Steep…whatever they just a grin. Possibly hard pack or ice are tricky sometimes where the shortness goes against them, but I’ve not had those conditions very often…we tended to spend even more time off piste when the conditions are like that.

Off piste they can do a lot once you are used to them. Which generally does not take too long. The Jedi’s struggle on shallow gradients for someone of my size/weight (70Kg/154Lbs + ski gear), needing a certain speed to get them floating. But once they are floating then you are off. Which is especially fun when in the trees, particularly as there is less ski to catch.

An initial niggle with the skiboards was getting used to the fixed bindings (Line FF Pro’s with 2 rubber spacers to raise binding) particularly after cable-cars/bubbles as you need to find out the do’s and don’ts. Obviously doing anything on a steep gradient, or off piste is going to be tricky, so you need to have got that sorted before you venture there. I adjusted my bindings to accommodate this by making sure the heal and toe swing arms had some resistance (slight bend) so they would stay where you placed them – especially needed on the heal side. Then you do not need to use the strap to hold it up…Next I made an adjustment to the ankle strap as the clip would get full of compressed snow preventing it’s ease of use. There I changed by modifying the strap so it could be placed under 2 boot buckles so no strap clips to connect. This meant if the ski did come off – it never did – then the strap was clamped under the buckles and prevent an escaping ski. Other than that a slight boot adjustment to the rear if a lot of off piste was to be undertaken and that was about it.

So other than the surface area of the Jedi’s there was no downsides, just smiles all the way. Hence skiing on them for years and years.

I did adopt the use of collapsible poles within a year of the Jedi’s as the poles gave you more options. Being collapsible you could keep them in your rucksack or collapse them down and hold them. But when you get to steep, deep or bumps they can bring back the “traditional” long ski feel. So the poles are there when you need them and not if you don’t. Off piste, extending the poles meant that you could float on shallower gradients then without poles and when it got really deep you could extend them to give some additional stability along with a larger baskets.

Skiing wise I’m not a risk taker. I’ll only start jumping etc if I’ve done a good few weeks skiing and my body is in the zone. I’ll go fast and do everything, but as I never got into skiing at a young age my mind will not allow me to do the younger fancy jumps and flips…until I’m nice and supple that is.

My overall score for the Jedi’s would be On Piste 8/10 Off Piste 6.5/10

Titanals
I then had an opportunity to get a bit more surface area and was going for some Summit Custom 110’s but they sold out in January 11 so I ended up getting a pair of never used Lacroix Titanal 99’s cheap of Ebay, some release bindings (new) and riser plates (new – non metal construction) which turned out to be from an old ski mate that had not heard from in 8 years.

The Titanals had a good surface area in comparison with the Jedi’s but with the release bindings they were a heavier piece of kit. Just as much fun and with usable floatation on shallow off piste now – mainly due to the greater surface area. Hence they were quicker then the Jedi’s on shallow gradients, but still required some conscious effort… A pair of 110’s would be ideal. 120’s would never fit in a wheelie bag, whilst transportation costs would mount up. Also 120’s are just not Skiboards – in my opinion.

The Titanals were more noticeable under foot on piste – in a good way. Partly because of the heavier bindings and general construction/size. Along with the increased width changing the feel of when you go to edge etc. They had a nice carbon fibre style black graphic on top but with a light Lacroix worded bottom – ideally would prefer standard black for repairs etc.

I only skied on the 99’s for a couple of weeks in Spring 2011. The skis were great, the bindings (Tyrolia SP130) messed around a little and needed some tweaking to resolve a front boot slide out issue (3 times) on aggressive turns on piste. This was resolved by taking the front DIN up to max (13). The beauty of this type of binding is it’s a “rental” type binding, meaning that it can be adjusted for different boot sizes by just moving a lever – no tools. Which means you can quickly move the binding backwards (3-5cm) if you want to to move the balance point for different terrain etc.

As I did not use the FF Pro bindings on the Titanals I’m not sure how much of the feel on edge and going to edge was down to that. Basically, they just did what I wanted when I wanted.

Overall on piste the Titanal 99’s were just as much fun in real terms, and I would give them 8.5/10. Off piste they cope a lot better then the Jedi’s and hence move up to 7.5/10.

Summit
For Spring 2012 I got in early and purchased a pair of Summit Custom 110’s (bamboo style woodies). I moved the Tyrolia SP130s on to 110s and added the larger of the high density rubber spacers from the Jedi bindings.Now I had the optimum Skiboard for my weight and what I liked to do – all terrain.

The 110’s had low gradient floatation off piste now, along with a bit of speed. With much better floatation generally off piste, meaning no immediate need to move the bindings back a notch to help keep the tips up rather than strain yourself – that would only be deep fresh powder now I imagine. However, conditions were so so for the 3 weeks skiing that season (two weeks Tignes, one week La Plagne). Conditions had meant pistes had a lot of hard pack – not ideal for skiboards – so it was a tad hard work mentally at times. Not much powder also meant that for a while they could not really be exploited. However there was enough in “hidden” places to know that 110s were fully capable.

The 110’s just add to Titanals which added to the Jedi’s. But each are a lot of fun.

The 110’s are more like the Titanals, especially with the SP130 bindings used. So they are quite heavy in comparison to the Jedi’s with FF Pro’s, but very stable. The main difference being the additional length then the 99’s and differences in construction.

Obviously because of the increase length there becomes a greater risk of injury with a fixed binding. However 110 is still a fixed binding option for me for my weight/height and because I’ve skied for years. However the slight convenience of the release binding does mean that skiing with mates means you are never having a trickier moment then them. Running the bindings on a high DIN setting is preferred – by myself – especially as fixed is still an option. The binding will still release but only when it really needs to. So you can do fast aggressive turns in confidence and also not get heavy snow building up on the tips pulling the ski off. Whilst there is no “strap” to worry about as now there are traditional brakes (on some models…wise to get them as makes putting on easier for a start as they cannot slip away as easily).

I would say that the 110’s and 99’s are great skiboards. The 99’s for young/short/light people and the 110 for all terrain/aggressive skiers/heavier skiers! Going with a release binding and collapsible poles (for all terrain, not really freestyle though) to give you greater flexibility – a collapsible ski pole is a reasonable good avalanche probe with the basket taken off and full extended if need be.

So for the Custom 110’s I would say On Piste 8.5/10 Off Piste 8.5/10

I would not count myself as an expert skier even though I’ve skied for many many years. Partly because I feel to be an expert you need to be doing more that a few weeks a year. I’ll ski anything and at pace, with loads of different turns, but unless I’ve skied for more than 2 months in a season I could not have the fitness level to do the things you do at expert level. However I’m always being told you can’t ski those “blades” off piste and they are not quick enough. I just say well I find they cope just fine… By the end of the day the naysayers end up saying they are not sure why they use these long skis, as it appears short skis are just as good…even Ski Guides have had to be convinced that these (110’s) are all terrain. Asking if I had longer skis with me or at the apartment – they had never had a skiboarder before! For me to say nope I’m fully kitted up for off piste, but these are the skis I use nowadays. By the end of day they too have said they’re surprised how quick they are, and that how they cope with all types of off piste.

So there you have it. Skiboards – in my opinion – are highly underrated – it’s a size thing…bigger must be better – and are great fun, convenient and basically can do what the big skis do, especially comparing against the norm of recreational skiers on big skis. So keep them tuned up every couple of days and they will just deliver every time whilst surprising the “nay saying others”.

Rider – Spanners – Expert Skiboarder

Titanal 99’s

Woodies

The Summit Marauder is a great board…

The Summit Marauder is a great board. It has very nice construction quality. It is sidewall construction as opposed to the cap construction of the Spruce long boards… but I can’t really say I notice much difference performance wise in sidewall vs cap construction. It has great float in pow and definitely more float then the Spruce 120, and has good edge hold. BUT it in no way matches the performance of the Sherpa. The Sherpa beats the Marauder on every count hands down, in stability, powder performance, ice hold, stability in crud, speed, even on turn ability and carving. A lot of the carving performance difference has to do with the more relaxed side cut of the Marauder vs. the very tight turning radius of the Sherpa. The Sherpa’s 160 tips are simply amazing in pow and crud and offer major improvements in performance over the 147 tips of the Marauder in those conditions as well.

Marauder in the backcountry and am using it more than the Sherpa for one reason. It is easier to climb with than the Sherpa. If I could get the Sherpa UP the hill as easily as I can get the Marauder, the Sherpa would be hands down my favorite backcountry board. The Marauder has two primary benefits for me in the backcountry. I travel in the company of skiers all of whom have smaller tips then me! We take turns breaking trail and following each other. If I am on my Sherpa. I cannot fit in their track because of my huge tips!!! I either have to break trail myself all the time or else break the trail again for my wider boards! Also , when climbing uphill traversing across icy slopes , the straighter side cut and smaller tips allow me to get a better climbing edge then the deeper side cut of the Sherpa so climbing in those conditions are easier .

The Marauder has a significant float increase over the Spruce 120 which I used extensively in the backcountry last season and so for these reasons it has become my go to backcountry board.

Rider – Jack Jue – Expert Skiboarder


Marauders are exactly what I was looking for…

I have ridden boards ranging from Head Shape 94 and the RVL8 Tansho to RVL8 KTP, Condor, Mary Jane, Revolt, ALP and the Spruce 120. My favorites, by far, have been the Condors. However, I was really wanting an all-mountain board that would give me easy setback for powder and chop and have bindings that would be easily adjustable to different sole length boots when I wanted to loan them out to a friend.

The Marauders have turned out to be exactly what I was looking for. The direct mount Tyrolia railflex binding has all the on-the-fly adjustability I wanted, and the Marauder is just a perfect board for me in the deep and soft stuff. If I intend to spend an entire day off the groomed runs, this is the board I take. I like it over the Spruce 120 due to the extra width and surface area. I am a heavier rider at around 185-190 lbs and I prefer wider boards.

I typically prefer the shorter boards (specifically the RVL8 Condor and KTP), but until I can devise a way to get on-the-fly setback and sole length adjustability on a release binding setup on the Condors, the Marauders have to fill this niche for me. They are as long as I would ever want to go, have great float, and great edge hold. In all, it’s a good setup and a good choice for heavier riders in pow and for those who want some flexibility in binding adjustments.

Rider – Robert Oshea – Intermediate Skiboarder


Custom Woodies are ultra stiff…

A great unique board which is no longer made. Ultra stiff, ultra solid, plows through anything is how I’d describe it. It has great edge control and works well in pow.
The Custom stiff all wood Summit 110 from last year is much, much heavier then the ALP and very much more stiff. It is uniformly stiff through the board which leads to a weightier, more mass like feel on the snow. It takes more rider effort to get on edge but once there feels extremely stable.

Rider – Jack Jue – Expert Skiboarder

Custom Woodies take on all conditions and can handle them all…

I’ve owned the Summit Custom Woodies stiff version for several years now. Going from 98cm to 110cm took about a couple of runs to get used to, especially the speed. These things are super fast. The Summits are as stiff, if not stiffer, than the MNPs, which make them accelerate like nothing else I have tried before. They may rival the Line Bullets as the fastest skiboards around. Most prefer skiboards that has more flex and more give to them, but I prefer to feel every single detail of a mountain, and the stiffness of this pair of skiboards really launches me out of a carve. Of all the skiboards that I own, this is the pair I go to all the time and is my all time favorite. Love the speed, love the grip, love the control, and they also perform in thigh-deep powder without missing a beat. Since they are so stiff, they don’t really float over powder, instead, they plow right through powder.

Have taken these skiboards on groomers, backbowls, backcountry, boardercross, ice, powder, slush, bumps, east coast, west coast, Canada, Europe, South America, etc… and there hasn’t been a condition where they cannot handle, with full confidence that I am in full control.

Rider – Edward Ho – Expert Skiboarder

Custom Woodies are confidence inspiring…

This is my first pair of skiboards – I’m 6’4″, 195lbs. I chose 110cm because I wanted to use non-releasable bindings with a longer skiboard.

Background: I switched from skis because although I was decent on skis (spent three seasons, ~6 times per season on Colorado mountains), I never became great at it. I would push myself too much on some steeper slopes, gather speed, cross my tips, and inevitably faceplant. I grew sick of this, and when I went to Snowshoe, WV last year, I asked for the shortest rentals they had – think I spent the weekend on a pair of 135cm skis and was overjoyed – magnitudes more control was enjoyed by me, and they were forgiving – if I was dragging the wrong edge, it didn’t hurl me down the mountain, I just removed pressure from that edge and kept going.

Now that I knew shorter meant more control and more forgiving, I wanted to buy my first pair of boards. I probably should’ve thought about this in the off season so that I could’ve picked up a pair of Condors with a serious discount, but I was able to pick up a pair of these “woodies” at a decent price. The first thing that struck me was how beautiful they were – I look forward to refinishing them when they get a bit of wear and tear – the fact that they have a wooden topsheet means that I can take a bit of sandpaper to them in the offseason, then refinish with a couple of coats of polyurethane.

These boards are very confidence inspiring – I like that their stiffness grabs high speed carves that I previously wouldn’t have felt as comfortable on, making irregularities in the terrain of little notice. They also feel like they accelerate quicker than the shorter skis that I tried out last season. I stayed out of moguls (never did like them), but did make short excursions in and out of the trees on the edges of groomers without worry. I think the last thing that I can offer some opinion on is their ability to handle “crud”. Fake snow in piles, slush, piles of powder on groomers – I had expected to worry about pitching end over end due to other skiboarders’ advice on setting inserts back, or moving your center of balance so that you don’t dig your tips in and pitch forward as if hitting a curb. I shouldn’t have worried about it – After I went through the first crud, I began aiming for them for the sheer joy of charging through and continuing without worry.

Add-ons: Snowjam Extreme 2 non-releasables – heavy, but very sturdy. Had read about the possibility of screws backing out after the first day, but I had no difficulties – tightened them all the way down, left them for a couple of days, and then tightened a little bit further – they’re not coming out. Line skiboarding boots were used – they worked fine, didn’t tilt me forward so that I could maneuver my balance more easily, but I’m done with hard boots. Looking forward to a RVL8 Receptor Soft Binding, a Rockerbinding, and a pair of stiff snowboard boots to make my days on the slopes confident AND comfortable.

Rider – Rob – Beginning Skiboarder

Custom Carbons are fast…

Since I own the Summit Custom Woodies 110cm stiff skiboards, when the Carbon version came out, I just had to get them. I’ve found for myself, the 110cm length is my perfect length. Why did I purchase the Carbons when I already own the Woodies? I was looking for a skiboard with the same shape and characteristics of the Woodies, but in a slightly lighter version as the Woodies are really heavy.

Performance-wise, they have more flex than the Woodies, which for me, isn’t a great thing since I do prefer a skiboard that is super stiff, but aside from that, they perform just like the Woodies in various conditions, being a bit more forgiving than the Woodies with more of a flex. They are fast, they grip on ice, they are fast, and for me, they are almost just right. If they were stiffer, they would be just right, but I think for the majority, this is the right combination of flex with all-around mountain performance.

Rider – Edward Ho – Expert Skiboarder


Skiboardmagazine’s Jason flexes the Summit Nomad…

So I finally got to try these out after years of these being on the market.

Most interesting thing of these skiboards is the flex. They are stiff under foot, and the tips are very soft. This works nice in powder, giving plenty of lift out of the soft snow with little effort. Add that with the 6 cm high tips and you get lots of lift. More lift does make for more drag however, so they are slower in soft snow than other skiboards.

At 6.8 meters, the Nomads have a pretty large turning radius for this size skiboards, combine that with a stiff under foot and you get an amazingly stable and fast ride, as long as you dont rely on the tails, ie ride the tips or backseat.

Park rats might find the turning radius too big and tips too soft to get very creative, but it does make landings and slides super stable. If you enjoy bombing steeps, long carves and frequent powder stashes on occasion, pick yourself up a pair.

Rider – Jason Roussel – Expert Skiboarder Co-founder Skiboardmagazine.com


Love love love my Nomads…

I finally got a chance to try out my new Nomads this past week. The last couple of seasons I’ve been riding only long boards (120s) because where I now live the conditions are mostly powder. This is how my two days on the slopes went:

On day one I broke out the Nomads first thing to give them a try. I only lasted 2 runs before switching to my 120s, this was really no fault of the Nomads. There was a good bit of loose powder on the slopes that day, and I just didn’t want to try out the Nomads for the first time in those conditions. It had been a while since I’d been on anything that short, so I wasn’t comfortable.

On day two I decided I was going to force myself to ride the Nomads all day long, so I only took them to the slopes with me. The conditions were much different from day one. It started out groomed hardpack (slick in spots), and by the afternoon became soft and slushy. The temp got close to 60 degrees and the sun was shining bright. I must say that I had an absolute freakin’ blast on the Nomads. I have an enjoyable and fun time on my 120s, but the Nomads brought me back to the times when I lived in Minnesota only using sub 100cm boards. It took me a little while to get used to riding short boards again. I realized soon to have the boards perform like I wanted, I needed to push them harder. It was great to get back into a gorilla stance and carve these things tight back and forth down the slopes. I was riding fakie, doing flat 360 spins, and even hitting small jumps. All things I seldom ever feel comfortable with on my 120s.

Overall the Nomads were stable at speed, performed very well in the crud, kept a great edge, and were super light on the feet. There were a few times I sunk into the slush and felt like I might face plant, but I don’t think any other board would have performed better. And something else to mention is that these boards are simply gorgeous. When I received them I thought they were green and black, but you get them in sunlight and you learn the black is actually a dark blue. Very sharp!

Quite often I buy boards, use them once or twice, decide they aren’t for me, and then turn around and sell them. I won’t be doing this with the Nomads. They are keepers! Love, love, love them!!! :-)

Rider – Jay Wisely – Expert Skiboarder